Options Trading and Real Estate Investing with Omar Khan

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Georges El Masri [00:00:00] Thanks for joining me, I’m your host, Georges El Masri, and this is another episode of the Well Off podcast where today I interviewed Omar Khan, who is the co-founder of Theta Trading. So for those that don’t know, Theta trading is all about helping people achieve financial freedom by teaching them the foundations of trading stock options. Omar has been investing in real estate and trading stocks for a number of years now. And on this episode, we actually talked about his, his family’s struggles, his financial struggles growing up, and how that led to him becoming financially free, how he bought 30 plus properties after joining rain in 2008, and then learning how to treat stock options as well, and the differences between owning real estate versus stock options. Which ones work better for him? And what are some of the benefits of you as a real estate investor or are the benefits for you as a real estate investor if you are looking to create an additional source of income? So I know there’s going to be a lot of good value here for you. I hope you’ll enjoy the episode. Remember to leave us a five star review on the Apple Podcasts platform. Make sure to share this with somebody that you think will benefit. And if you want to connect with me to talk about real estate investing, I’m more than happy to have a 50 minute conversation with you. All you got to do is go to, well, dossier. Book it time through there and again, I hope you will enjoy the episode. Welcome to The Well Off podcast, where the goal is to motivate, inspire and share success principles. I am here with Omar Khan from Theta Trading Co. Omar, welcome. Thank you for joining me today.

Omar Khan [00:01:32] First of all, thank you so much for having me on, George, I really appreciate it.

Georges El Masri [00:01:35] My pleasure. So I think this is probably the first time we actually speak. I’ve seen you present; I know you’re friends with Mark LaFlare and a couple of guys that I know. I like to start off by asking you a little bit about where you grew up and maybe one or two things you remember.

Omar Khan [00:01:50] Yeah, so I grew up in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. And what I remember about growing up is I remember never, never having enough. That’s one thing that’s ingrained in my memory. I had a great childhood. My parents were awesome, Stiller. And but the one thing I remember as a constant was, you know, not having if I always knew that I didn’t want to struggle financially like my parents did.

Georges El Masri [00:02:12] Yeah, yeah. I totally relate to that. I know exactly what you’re saying. I had a very similar upbringing, so I think that’s awesome because that drives a lot of us like a lot of people that I speak to on the podcast. If they had that type of childhood be, they want to create something better for themselves. So that’s great. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So why don’t you tell us a little bit about data trading? I know I’m sure a lot of people have heard of it by now, but if you want to just give us a quick summary.

Omar Khan [00:02:39] Yeah. So Theta trading is it’s a way of investing. It’s a way of it’s a way of looking at the world. How do we start theta trading? Well, going to university, I went to University College, I got an economics degree, came out completely financially literate, which is very surprising considering I went for an economics program right now. I was supposed to be. But anyways started working and I’m like, You know what? No one has taught me how to make a dime. So I started investing, trading on my own. I started in 98 and kept trading, kept making money, kept investing, kept learning. And then the financial crash of 08 09 happened and my portfolio went down sizable in value, which is fine, which happens in the world. But because it was a huge global financial collapse and then 08 09, as I said to myself, know what I had to learn how to buy real estate the right way. So I joined Ray and then the next I may be around seven or eight years. I proceeded to buy north of 30 properties and I kept them until I kept the majority until last year, and I sold off a bunch of single-family homes last year. In the meantime, I just kept trading and trading. All my properties were acquired through trading through my trading profits, which was which was great for me. I quit my job in about eight years ago, and the reason I quit is because I had about a dozen properties that I, quite frankly, I had the knowledge to know. I never had to go back. Even though I had a great job. I got paid a lot of money, you know, I was, but I came from the stock world. I learned how to buy real estate. So when I’d go to these meetings, real estate people, they’d always trash the stock market. It’s a common thing where Real said they do not. It’s not because it’s because they don’t understand how the stock market works. So two years ago, we had over the years taught a bunch of friends and family like Mark. We just thought about a trade we talked about by joining the Board of Trade. And then two years ago, we decided that we’re going to make a business of this and teach people how to trade and how to invest and how to put their financial future in their hands. And two years later, we’re at 100 plus people in our ecosystem, and we would change a lot of lives. So, yeah, it’s been great fun.

Georges El Masri [00:04:47] Yeah, I’ve heard a lot of people say amazing things about your program. I did like, I’m a real estate agent and an investor in Hamilton and other areas, but I did notice that you put up a bunch of homes for sale. I think it was last year, maybe earlier this year. Yeah, I was curious, why is it that you are liquidating and are you like using those funds to invest in the stock market and options trading?

Omar Khan [00:05:12] Yeah, exactly. So I have a unique perspective that way. I understand it. Real estate well, because I own know north of 20 million dollars plus a property. So I understand real estate well, which I learned on my own through rain. So I know real estate well and I’ve been trading since 1998, so I understand the stock market well. So I’m very I have a unique perspective, but I understand both asset categories. Our job as investors is to allocate our capital to the most efficient, effective source possible with real estate prices where they work from, where I bought them, the rent to the rent to market value currently where it was, when I sold them and the future prospects, you know, I don’t think rents are going to go a whole lot lower. So I have to look at both asset categories and stay, where do I have more opportunity? So I decided to sell off a bunch of single-family homes and allocate those resources in the stock market. So far, so good.

Georges El Masri [00:06:02] Awesome. What would be like some of the main differences you’ve seen between your results through real estate investing versus through the stock market real estate?

Omar Khan [00:06:14] I’ve done great real estate I don’t have to do. I sort of been there about 10 years ago, in 2010, 2011, and I’ve done really, really well. So I’ve no problem of real estate. Real estate is great for wealth accumulation because of the leverage ratio where you can leverage yourself along. Those cap rates are decent as well. You know, you can make some. I’ve done a lot of brokers, so I made a good amount of equity that way. Real estate is a very hands on. I’m out of work that you have to put into it. There’s a lot of work because a lot of dealing with banks, which I despise because these banks make my life miserable. I can’t go out enough about how much I don’t like the banks getting loans. Getting a refi has done is an absolute nightmare. So real estate is great for wealth creation, right? Let’s say you have a million dollars of properties and it goes up by 15 percent. Well, you made out of 50 grand. But what that does not translate into is anything for you and your family in terms of lifestyle, right? So we’re trading pits in really, really well as a complementary investment asset category is that I don’t generate a lot of free cash flow, which I can use for lifestyle and excess. Beyond that, we’ll go back into acquiring more real estate when the numbers make sense. So to be able to use them in a complementary way, like what I do is I take my positive cash flow that I get from trading. I then put it into my real estate portfolio. I’ll acquire more assets and the positive cash flow and replies as they happen from real estate. Go back into padding my trading account through large a large number until desired outcome is achieved. And I luckily, I achieved that outcome a few years ago. So I don’t have to worry about it, but I really enjoy what I do, so I keep doing it.

Georges El Masri [00:07:50] It for sure. What do you think would be like and to a worthwhile amount to start investing into the options trading?

Omar Khan [00:08:01] Same answer. I’d say $10000. But I will argue all day long that money is nowhere near as important as knowledge is right because I signed off with nothing but an old subject and line of credit, just meager savings from my first job. So I grew my portfolio from there. And but I will. There’s a reason why you, for example, if you look at lottery winners for professional athletes, why don’t more than 50 percent of them go broke? You would think that’s just insanity? How can they go broke? It’s because they’re not financially literate to begin with. They don’t know how many works, whereas if you take someone who’s already traded a lot of wealth, you take all their wealth away, they’re able to recreate it. So, you know, I would say $10000 is the short answer for that. But I will. I would say the real answer is focus on the knowledge. As you get more comfortable, add more assets in. But the real key is getting the knowledge done, understanding the process and understanding why am I making money? And then just learning to scale it from there?

Georges El Masri [00:08:56] Sure. And for those that don’t know, because I’m obviously unfamiliar with your program, are you able to kind of do a quick summary of what theta trading is? What do you guys do? What do you teach people how to do? What’s the strategy? Just briefly?

Omar Khan [00:09:11] Yeah, I’ll give you because I know a lot of your listeners are real estate listeners, so I’ll give you a real estate analogy, OK? Imagine I see a house in Fantasyland Ontario that costs five hundred thousand. No, they don’t exist anymore. I got that. Well, let’s just say they did. Five hundred grand. All right. And you know, I do my homework. I look at the rental market value. I look at any infrastructure projects or come in. I look at GDP growth, I look at jobs growth area. I’m I come up with a one year valuation, let’s say five hundred fifty thousand because I think rates are going to stay stable now. I’ve come up, I’ve done that homework. And I think the home will be worth five fifty a year from now. And I think the true market value today is what the seller is asking for, which is $500 instead of buying that house for five hundred thousand right. What I’ll do is, I’ll say, instead of buying this house for five hundred thousand homeowner, I’ll agree to buy it for you for four hundred and ninety thousand one month now. But I have determined that the one year value is five hundred and fifty. So again, instead of buying it for five hundred thousand, I’ll say, You know what? I’ll take it off your hands for four hundred and I’ll guarantee you that price for a for a month. So even if it goes for 80 or 70, I’ll guarantee you a four hundred ninety thousand price for a buyer. In exchange for that homeowner, you’re going to pay me $10000 for the month. Now, if I approach the prospective homeowner with this proposition, I will get, yeah, we probably get into a confrontation that might call the cops on me, like, get the hell off my property. Like it would turn into one of those right now because nobody’s going to go for it. You cannot do that in the real estate market, but you can do it the stock market. So what we do in the stock market is we’ll look at a company. Let’s take like take, for example, Tesla. I love Tesla, the company. I think it’ll be worth far more if it’s not meant to be stock advice. That’s just our internal homework. Now, Tesla is currently trading at around seven hundred and fifty bucks. OK. So I can do two things I can agree to buy Tesla for at or lower its price, which is what we do. Or I could do this by Tesla and wait for it to go up. Now, if I now think about Tesla’s accept a hundred and fifty dollars for that car, and if I just agreed to buy it for seven hundred fifty a month now, I’m getting paid five percent for the month. So can you imagine getting paid five percent for a month simply for agreeing to buy something that I would have bought anyways, that I think is worth a lot more in the future? Yeah. So that’s the basic premise of what we do day in and day out, and that’s the real estate analogy equivalent.

Georges El Masri [00:11:29] Sure. And so basically what you’re saying is this isn’t necessarily telling people here, don’t invest in real estate. This is better, you’re saying. Invest in real estate, because that’s going to build your long term wealth, but use this strategy on the side so that you can generate some income for yourself now or just have some extra cash that you can reinvest in real estate, whatever else you might want to do with it.

Omar Khan [00:11:51] Yeah, what I would say, I wouldn’t say I would add to that in the sense that if the numbers don’t make sense, I’m not going to buy a property just because I have excess capital, I know what else to do with it. Yeah, if the numbers makes it, I’m not going to go buy three cap and Hamilton. That has no upside. Lawrence, why would I do that? Sincerity. I don’t think rates are going to go lower. So if the numbers don’t make sense just because my capital is a tumor here, I’m not going to go blindly buy a property. I’ll put more money into the stock market because the point is, if you’re effectively able to understand and evaluate two different asset categories, you can allocate your capital your money to the source where you think you’re going to get the highest rate of return risk adjusted right. And of course, there will be times when real estate comes back on paper. Right now, in my opinion, is not one of those times that could easily change in the future, but that is the general idea. The general idea is to take our earnings, acquire more real estate, but we don’t do it blindly. We only do it when the numbers make sense.

Georges El Masri [00:12:51] Yeah, for sure. Now, if somebody is interested in finding out more about how to get involved in options trading and in your programs, can you kind of tell us what programs you offer and maybe give us an idea of what you cover in those programs?

Omar Khan [00:13:04] Yeah. So we have a theta course that’s called the Theta Introductory Stock Academy, and it is designed to take someone who knows nothing about the stock market and take them at the end of about one weekend to a point where they fully understand the stock market, how it works, why it works, and also the options strategy that we use. We have a very simple strategy, but there is a lot to load that simple strategy again. Like I said, we simply agreed to buy stocks lower than the current market value, and we get paid a lot of money to do so. Now we teach all about one weekend. We also give six months of follow up support and that’s you get a daily newsletter with all of our trades, not for the purpose of copying, but for the purpose of understanding the thought process behind each and every trade so that we get hit by a bus. You can continue on your own. You get a coaching call every Friday. You get, you know, live events like we had a golf tournament somewhere. There’s a lot of the follow ups on. You get six months of that and at the end of six months, if you don’t understand it, it’s probably because you didn’t put in the effort because there is a there is a learning curve. There’s definitely effort to be put in. But I promise after that effort has been put on, it is an absolute game changer financially. Like it literally has the ability to change your life if you take it seriously, if you put in the work. So that, of course, is one thousand nine hundred and ninety seven dollars as one shot. Or you can pay in three installments. It’s entirely your choice.

Georges El Masri [00:14:35] OK, now I know I’m sure there are people listening and wondering if this works so well. Why isn’t everyone doing it? What’s your answer to that?

Omar Khan [00:14:43] The same reason I had. How come nobody can never. We don’t have 10, 20, 30, 50 million dollars of real estate. It works, does it not? Yeah, right? Yeah. But people don’t do it right. Why isn’t everyone Warren Buffett? I stop answering that question. Long time ago, I realized that a lot of the world is a negative, pessimistic, closed minded, and they’re always going to be that way. There’s nothing that you can say or do to these people that is going to change. And now there’s a certain segment of the population, which is not. That is the segment we’re going to get people who are open minded, willing to do a lot of things and expand and get out of their comfort zone. For real estate investors. I understand the stock market is like the boogeyman. I like, why would I want to trust the stock market when I do so well in the real estate market? Well, the real estate market has been on a 20 year bull run. Rates are pretty much at the lowest point they’re ever going to be, they’re not, you know, would you expect the same sort of continuation 20 years for, you know, that time will tell. But my point is why not learn to objectively understand two asset categories so you can, you know, allocate your capital to the most effective source? Simple answer, George. I don’t know. I don’t know. Okay. I just don’t know.

Georges El Masri [00:15:50] Yeah.

Omar Khan [00:15:51] You know, here’s. I’ll give you one more thing here. You know, I think again, let’s say I agree to buy Tesla for 750 bucks and someone pays me five percent for the month. OK? The odds are so heavily stacked against them. And yet the worst thing that’ll happen to me is I’m going to own Tesla for 750 bucks, and I keep the five percent for the month. Yeah. So you’re thinking, why would someone do this right now? I used to ask that question all the time, and then I would drive by a taxi and see that it’s completely full when the people there are fully aware that they are most likely going to lose money and the odds are so heavily stacked against them. Yet people continue to do this. I don’t know why. Yeah, but you know, that’s human nature.

Georges El Masri [00:16:31] Yeah. Just to kind of break that down a little bit. So if you are looking at it from the other perspective that Tesla owner, that Tesla stock owner, that’s accepting your option fee, I guess they’re just looking for some insurance because they’re thinking maybe the market’s going to drop. I don’t want to risk, you know, Tesla stock dropping to like $600 or so. I’ll pay this little option fee as an insurance policy.

Omar Khan [00:16:57] Absolutely. Yeah, that’s one aspect. So a lot of people absolute you’re right. Let’s say, for example, you own a few hundred shares of Tesla and you’re like, You know what? I got a deal to sell my Tesla shares for 750 at minimum because I need this money for a down payment on a property. That’s one source people who are essentially insuring the value of their stock. We are more than happy to take their money because we’re happy to own that stock because we think it’ll be worth a lot more because we’ve done our homework. That’s the that’s one type of person who buys us insurance and we provide this insurance. The second type is simply a speculative, you know, someone who’s looking to sort of small amount of money into a large amount of money. And if they’re wrong, they’ll lose all their money. Again, we’re more than happy to take their money because we’re happy if you know, if we have to own Tesla on that insurance does kick and we’re more than happy to work for us. It’s a win either way.

Georges El Masri [00:17:43] That makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. So for you moving forward, having owned a lot of real estate and a lot of stocks moving forward, are you personally leaning more towards investing in stocks or are you still kind of like 50-50?

Omar Khan [00:18:00] Are my asset mix is probably 50 50 right now, but I’m moving more and more toward stocks because I see the growth in, you know, we’re about to undergo a significant transformation in the world. You know, if you look at the movement to electric vehicles, robotics, artificial intelligence, blockchain technology, you know, like again, like if you I don’t know if you saw that Tesla bought, which was going to be like a shop, you know, just having a bot in your house that’s going to clean your home and get your groceries for you, like it’s going to be an insane new world. And if that does occur, which I think it will, that means the pace of GDP growth will be absolutely exponential. There is no limit to. So that being the case, I just see more opportunity right now in the stock market and the stock market’s a general term. It’s like saying I see more opportunity, a real estate market. Well, what market is it? Hamilton as a Toronto, is it? Is it outside of Ontario? Is it in the United States? So again, I see more opportunity in the stock market because of all these changes that are we’re about to undergo as humans as opposed to real estate, which has kind of had a 20 year bull run rate are at a historical low. Now I understand, is immigration coming in, you know, five hundred thousand people coming in for the next three years and Canada, that’s going to provide upward pressure. But if you notice in the election campaign, we are just an election, we just had a one day. Every party talked about affordable housing and it was it was a centerpiece of their of their actual policy. So you tell me, do you think that real estate has that much more to go on the upside? It might. But I just think right now there’s more opportunity on the stock side, specifically companies that are going to be part of this transformation that we’re about to undergo.

Georges El Masri [00:19:45] OK, yeah, that’s understandable. So maybe the last thing I’ll ask you unless you feel like there’s anything else we should cover, but what’s your vision for data trading? Like, do you where do you see it going in the next couple of years? What would you like to achieve?

Omar Khan [00:20:00] Well, I want to achieve what we set out to achieve. So luckily for myself and my business partner, Matthew, we know we were able to achieve financial independence at a good at a good age and live life on our terms. Our only goal and the goal we’ve started from the beginning is to get as many people as possible into a position of financial independence as we possibly can. That is our goal. Why? Because it’s a personal issue for us. This caused a lot of problems in my life. Growing up, I saw my parents arguing with the stuff about. And I grew in an immigrant household, I was always saving just watching each dollar. It’s not the life I want to live. You talked about you had a similar upbringing. I didn’t mean it. It was. It was a great environment. But you know, the financial aspect of it was a major problem. And if you look at the cause of divorces of mental health issues in society, a lot of that stems from a lack of a lack of money, lack of finances. Mm-Hmm. So if we can alleviate this problem, make people’s lives better. That is what we set out to do in the first place, right? Awesome. Yeah, that’s how I see it morphing from here.

Georges El Masri [00:21:02] Cool. Is there anything we didn’t cover or anything you want to touch on before we move on to the next section?

Omar Khan [00:21:08] No, I would just say, you know, I would strongly encourage people to objectively and openly look at the logic. But I think about it if I wanted to buy or if I want to buy Apple or, you know, some of the best companies, all like Facebook today, I decided to buy a lot of Facebook because it’s down. You know, do I want to pay current market value or would I rather flat below market value and get paid between one to five percent per month just for agreeing to buy it? And the worst thing that’s going to happen to me is I want to own a stock I like at a cheaper price, and I got paid a lot of money to do so. Yeah, I would say, please be open minded. Look at what this can do to your life. And if you want to buy more real estate, you can take all your proceeds to buy more. The point is it puts you in a much better position as an investor. That’s our job.

Georges El Masri [00:21:50] Exactly. Yeah, that’s awesome. I think I like the way you put it, like the fact that if people are wondering, why isn’t everyone doing this? Well, why isn’t everyone buying real estate? Why isn’t everyone putting money aside? You know, why do people gamble that? That’s a good point.

Omar Khan [00:22:05] Yeah, yeah. And think of it, what is it? 70 percent of people are paycheck to paycheck. Why is that? Why is that the case? Yeah, it’s because, you know, right from the beginning, financial literacy is not taught in grade school. It’s not taught in high school. It’s not even taught universe. So some of the most educated people who come out or uneducated doesn’t matter. Like, I’m talking about formal education. The vast majority of people come out financially illiterate. Mm-Hmm. Let me ask you a question. Did you learn about real estate in school?

Georges El Masri [00:22:33] No, I did an economics degree as well.

Omar Khan [00:22:36] So there you go. Yeah. How much did you learn about real estate or building wealth or creating or building businesses, any of that stuff in school?

Georges El Masri [00:22:42] Zero. Me too.

Omar Khan [00:22:44] That is my exact point. Yeah. So that’s why I think more people don’t participate in this because they’re largely unaware of it, like before hearing about data. But you could buy stocks cheap and paid a lot of money for it.

Georges El Masri [00:22:56] I do because I’m friends with Mark Loeffler. He introduced the concept to me, but that’s because of you.

Omar Khan [00:23:02] That’s because of us. Yeah, we told Mark. Yeah, exactly. That’s my point. Right. So most people are largely unaware that this exists. Also on the technology side. Twenty years ago, this wasn’t possible because, you know, you weren’t able to trade on your phone. Cost of trading were much higher. Now you can trade on your phone anywhere in the world 30 minutes and you’re done. It’s a really good spot to be in. So there wasn’t for technology, you know, we wouldn’t be in this position right now. So that’s one of the main reasons I think people haven’t participated in this in this part of the economy and create an income stream for Locke is because the technology isn’t in a prior.

Georges El Masri [00:23:39] Oh, absolutely, yeah. So we’ve covered a lot of good things. I appreciate that you’re very passionate about this topic and helping people. So we’re going to move on to the next section, which is the random five. Can I ask you five questions? You just tell me the first thing that comes to mind. Number one is what is something that is really out of your comfort zone.

Omar Khan [00:23:59] Anything in the arts, like painting, singing, music, it’s not for me. I suck at all those things. OK? That would be the thing for me. I see some drawings of your background I think about is that The Rock and Steve Jobs, Kobe? Oh, it’s Kobe. Yeah, yeah, the Mamba mentality, you, see?

Georges El Masri [00:24:17] Yeah, exactly.

Omar Khan [00:24:19] So I think that’s out of my comfort zone. Yeah.

Georges El Masri [00:24:21] Cool. Probably pretty similar for me, although it doesn’t make me necessarily uncomfortable, but I do suck at most of those things. Yeah. Number two, would you ever eat bugs?

Omar Khan [00:24:33] Bugs. Yeah. Like, I’ve eaten bugs, I was in the military for four years, so on survival courses. You know, you got to eat whatever you got to eat. So I mean, all kinds of weird things. I have no problem eating bugs if I prefer, of course not to. Yeah, yeah. But if I have to, I’ll eat another human being if I have to break it to survive. It’s just, you know, it’s part of my military training and I’ll hopefully again, I never have to do else.

Georges El Masri [00:24:54] Yeah, absolutely. Interesting. OK. The things you learn when you ask these questions. Number three, would you rather time travel to the past or to the future?

Omar Khan [00:25:05] One hundred percent of the future? Yeah, I think the world, as it is at such a cool time to be alive. And I think 10 years from now, you know, when cars are running around driving themselves and we have bots in our home, helping us in an artificial intelligence is getting stronger and stronger, and therefore we’re able to solve a lot of the world’s health and science problems. Yeah, I think we’re the world is, you know, there’s a danger to that as well. Of course, there’s a lot of ugly things that come with it. But I think the future is very bright for humanity, and I’d love to see it go.

Georges El Masri [00:25:38] Number four, What really stupid movie always makes you laugh.

Omar Khan [00:25:42] Friday Fried Ice Cube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it’s a great movie, man. So if you’ve seen it, have you seen it?

Georges El Masri [00:25:48] I have not seen it. No. I don’t know what it’s about, but I haven’t seen it. Yeah.

Omar Khan [00:25:53] Yeah, I’m a bit older, so it’s a movie from the late 90s, early 2000. It’s a pretty funny movie.

Georges El Masri [00:25:59] I’m pretty sure my wife’s seen it. But yeah, not me. I have yet to see it.

Omar Khan [00:26:03] You got to see it.

Georges El Masri [00:26:04] Yeah. OK. Number five, have you ever taken classes just for fun?

Omar Khan [00:26:10] No, I wouldn’t say I’ve ever taken class, and I’m not. You know, it was always for a purpose, but I’ve spent a lot of money on educating myself. I’ve done multiple Tony Robbins courses. I did strategic coach with Ben Nolan. You know, I’ve done my brain for almost seven years. I think it was even more maybe 10 years. I kind of was mean four. So I spent a lot of money on my personal education. But is it for fun, ever? No, it’s always for a purpose. Yeah. Cool.

Georges El Masri [00:26:37] This guy behind me, the Steve Jobs, I’m pretty sure he did. His typography class for fun back in university dropped out. And anyway,

Omar Khan [00:26:46] that’s why he’s the senior Steve Jobs. All right. Yeah, because of all the best investment I if I had time, I would definitely do that. But I don’t have the time right now. I’m a big believer in this. The best decision you can ever make, the best decision you can make in terms of money spent is the money that you spend on yourself, right? Like, I took this course by then 11 years ago, a strategic coach was ten grand for four days, not cheap, but I learned something invaluable there to outsource, systemize and delegate my life. So after that, I don’t do a thing at home. I don’t cut grass or shovel driveways or cooked food, or I don’t do anything. Yeah, I focused simply what I’m best at, and I outsource every one of those tasks, like cleaning my car. I don’t know who does exactly, but it’s certainly not me. And that’s because, you know, you’re supposed to allocate your time to where you’re most productive. And it’s certainly not for me getting groceries, but that’s not a good thing for me unless, of course, it is something you enjoy, which is a different case. Yeah.

Georges El Masri [00:27:44] And it’s so much easier to delegate, like you can order groceries online really easily. So there’s a lot of ways to delegate these things.

Omar Khan [00:27:51] Yeah. Who wants to cut grass on Saturday, like cutting grass and like putting flowers less on unstopped for me, you? But my god, you know, people I’ve hired, they do a great job. This is my point. Getting your car cleaned out, everyone’s car. Get dirty. I have a mobile car cleaning service that comes to my home, cleans my cars, which again saves me time. And that’s what I’m getting at. There’s a lot of things that you learn when you decide to try to learn. But also one thing that nobody can really force you to do is to implement. Like when I was at rain, I would sit at a different table every time I was there and I would just talk to people. And I realize that there’s a lot of people who had been there for years who had yet to buy a property like, What are you waiting on? Yeah, well, you got to get up, but there’s no point of being here for years and years and years if you’re not going to implement this.

Georges El Masri [00:28:38] Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. So that was the last question. Do you want to tell people how they could reach you? And pretty obvious, but what services do you provide?

Omar Khan [00:28:47] Oh yeah, you can reach me at Omar, at Bater Trading Co dot com, and they know it’s in my heart that they are trading. Yeah. And yeah, we just we educate people on the stock market, how to use derivatives to generate to generate income and build your overall wealth and put yourself in a position to do what you want. It’s also having a 100 percent money back guarantee, and the reason we do that is because we know what we do works right. We’ve proven it with our own lives. I don’t know. And I would encourage all some people to take a look at our reviews, our Google reviews, and I think we have one hundred and fifty some on Google. Each one of them are five stars. Not because we asked. They’re very detailed about what this has meant to their life, so people will tell you. How it’s changed your life, and I would encourage you, George, would say you learn how to invest and trade, it literally has the ability to change your life. Yeah, I’ve been not. It’s not a small deal.

Georges El Masri [00:29:44] Yeah, I absolutely agree. I know like Mark’s been pushing me to learn about this for a long time. I’ve been pushing it aside over and over and over, but I know I know I will have to get into this.

Omar Khan [00:29:58] Well, you largely have to. You need to get in this right. You do what you you’re an entrepreneur. I’m an entrepreneur. We want to put ourselves in the best financial position possible. The next generation we can pass on not just money, but life lessons. And what like my kids, my kids, you know, hopefully we’ll never have to go through the crap that I want. Now you learn a lot from the crap that you go through, but it’s also to make your life easier. I’m looking forward. Hopefully, you’re on the 16th and 17th. We have our next course. I’d love to see you on there. Trust me, it’ll literally change your life. There’s a reason marks and pushing on. Yeah, yeah. It’s not because it’s crazy. It’s because he knows what it’s done for his life, right? Sure.

Georges El Masri [00:30:34] Awesome. OK, well, thanks a lot for everything you shared today. I wish you all the best and looking forward to staying in touch.

Omar Khan [00:30:41] Thank you, Georgia, having me on and I appreciate the opportunity to show the message.

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