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Overwhelm, Self Confidence And Moving Through Fear With Lisa Mitchell

Overwhelm, Self Confidence And Moving Through Fear With Lisa Mitchell
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George El Masri [00:00:00] Hello, thank you for tuning in, George El Masri here, the host of the well off podcast, and today I interviewed Lisa Mitchell. It was an awesome interview is a little bit different from the usual. Instead of discussing specific real estate strategies, we actually talked about a couple different things that are universal and things that we all have to deal with. So there were three points in this episode. Number one, overcoming overwhelm. Number two, self-confidence. And number three, moving through through fear. Excuse me. So obviously, these are all things that we have to address in our lives, especially as investors. I know that I've had to work on my self-confidence. I'm constantly being challenged by fear and always having to overcome it. So I hope you'll enjoy it. Lisa is also an investor and she talks a little bit about her journey to purchasing four properties in four months and doing second suite conversions. I hope you'll enjoy the episode. If you like it. Always make sure to share it with your friends and family, pass on the message and leave us a review. It's really important for us to get reviews from you. So if you're listening to it on an iPhone or iPad, iPod or any sort of Apple device, if you can just go into the podcast episode, scroll down and then click the reviews, leave us a five to five star and that would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you are interested in investing in multiunit units between four to six units in the Golden Horseshoe Area, I'd love to work with you. There are lots of opportunities for us to connect, for us to possibly do something together. So make sure you reach out, go to well off Dossie and you'll get all of my contact information there. Enjoy the episode. Welcome to the Life podcast, where the goal is to motivate, inspire and share success principles. I am here with Lisa Mitchell. Lisa is a real estate investor, a mom, a wife, an entrepreneur. She is also a talent management expert and executive coach. Her and her husband started investing in real estate to help them exit a career in corporate. She is a coach speaker and the founder of Green Apple Consulting. So, Lisa, welcome and thank you for joining us today.

Lisa Mitchell [00:02:08] Thanks, George. I'm really excited to be here. Thank you so much.

George El Masri [00:02:11] Awesome. So if you've heard you said you listen to a couple of episodes, what I like to do typically is ask you a little bit about your childhood, where you grew up. So if you want to share a little bit about that.

Lisa Mitchell [00:02:24] Absolutely. So born in Toronto, St Hospital is where my dad was born 30 years before and grew up in a tobacco. So had a pretty pretty reasonable middle class kind of upbringing, really spent a lot of time reading, reading, reading. Anybody who knows me knows I'm a major bookworm. I used to read my book, you know, walking home from school and would miss my house half the time because I'd be so absorbed, spend a lot of time outdoors. I was really into basketball and bicycling all over China, like all over I mean, at the age of 10. I can't believe what we used to do. And yeah, I, I did a lot of tutoring for French language. That was kind of my sweet spot. And I also ended up at the age of 13, starting to work every summer in my dad's pharmacy.

George El Masri [00:03:18] Oh, cool. Yeah, awesome. So just out of curiosity, which hospital were you born in?

Lisa Mitchell [00:03:24] Toronto. Western.

George El Masri [00:03:25] OK, yeah. All right. And so you like to cycle. You like to read. Is there anything I know you shared? But is there any any one particular memory you have from when you were a child that really sticks out to you?

Lisa Mitchell [00:03:38] Oh. There's there's so many God. I I think I don't know, I recently lost my dad. Maybe that's why my dad's coming into my into my mind. So I worked with him from, as I mentioned, the age of 13 through both degrees every single summer, Christmas and everything. And I remember sorry, dad, but I'm going to share. He actually lost his driver's license at one point when I was about I had just gotten my license. I was about 16. He he had gone and had drinks with other soccer coaches at one of the guys houses and was driving through Estes Park and was going a little too fast, got pulled over and he blew over. Oh, wow. And, you know, good guy, really responsible. So I tried to speak earlier, but he he got his license suspended for a couple of months. And it happened to coincide with when I was working with him at the store in Mississauga. And so we were so now it was sort of strange because I had my driver's license. I was able to do the driving and I was driving my mom's Pinto and my dad was six four. I just have this memory so vivid of him, like daddy, long legs folding himself into the tiny pinto beside me as I'm driving this steering wheel thing. Right, right.

George El Masri [00:04:59] Yeah, well, that's cool. I love those memories, like just certain things. There's so much that happens in life, but there's always like a couple of things that you never forget. And it's it's always nice to hear those stories.

Lisa Mitchell [00:05:09] Well, and even though it started with something really not good. Right, with him getting his license suspended, the gift and at the reframe is I had this I was able to to help my dad. Right. And it kind of worked out. And we we became really close to working together all those years.

George El Masri [00:05:23] Right. Right. OK, so tell us a little bit about your journey. I know you do some investing. I know you do all sorts of things. You're a coach consultant. Why don't you tell us a little bit about what you do?

Lisa Mitchell [00:05:35] Absolutely. So so first and foremost, I'm an executive coach and I help high achievers. I seem to attract high achievers and be attracted to them as one myself. And I help them. You know, they're very driven. So they typically want more results. They want to keep you know, they're never satisfied with status quo, always growing, always learning very much about their mindset typically. So I help them overcome overwhelm, because in the work I do with corporate leaders, I find that ultimately we're all the same. Right. So they'll say, you know, I've got this new team or I've just been promoted and they have various goals around what they are trying to achieve. For instance, in our work together over, say, six months. Ultimately, though, the key goal, the main part of the transformation is around self-confidence, trusting themselves, trusting the process, learning ways to move through fear, which is interesting because as an entrepreneur, you know, that's that's very much the the entrepreneurial journey to. Right. And so I'm bringing that back into corporate working with leaders where I spent over twenty years.

George El Masri [00:06:47] Yeah, great. So can we talk a little bit about that overcoming overwhelm. Can you give us an example of what that looks like and how you walk people through getting over it?

Lisa Mitchell [00:06:59] Yes, absolutely. So. Often times people kind of get we've all been through it, right, because because life kind of ebbs and flows, right. And there's ups and downs and we're going to be on a on a roll for a while. And then life hits us with curveballs and pandemics and different things like that. And it could be a little hard to figure out, you know, what's going on sometimes. So you can be in this in this state of mind where you're really not sure what you want even. Right, is the state of confusion. So, for instance, part of the reason I got into real estate investing was because I found myself in that state when I was last in corporate. And there's a lack of clarity. So when I work with people, the first thing we do is and we take our time is work through getting clarity around, OK, what's what's not working for you? What is working. What do you want moving forward and what is that what is that momentum you want to create? So it's it's really being able to figure out what's the outcome? What will you have? What will you know, how will you be? As a result of this movement and then we focus on really getting capability, building capability, so learning techniques, right. Sometimes it's as simple as just breathing techniques to help you when you're in that, like, hamster wheel kind of mode and you're going too fast and you can feel it. And being able to step back, slow down, balanced some of the grit with some grace, so to speak. And then from there, it's really amplifying confidence and being very action oriented, taking ridiculously small baby steps over time that add up to two huge change and transformation.

George El Masri [00:08:47] Right. So what I'm hearing you say is that often people feel overwhelmed because they have a lack of clarity. So what you do is you help them identify what's not working, what momentum do you want to create? You walk them through some breathing techniques and then also you help them take a step back instead of being stuck in the business, kind of overlooking taking a look at the business and figuring out what adjustments need to be made. Is that a pretty good summary of what you said?

Lisa Mitchell [00:09:17] Yes. And the breathing is just one piece of the that's just an example. It could also be, you know, brainstorming and and I'm very outcome focused in my consulting works with the other side of my business is I work with talent management leaders in strategy building and through consulting and facilitation program development so that anybody in H.R. Odey organization development, learning and development and so on. So where I start with those folks, any business leader is OK, they'll say, here's a problem. Can you train these people? Can you fix it? Right. And it's usually not you know, the problem is not that they present initially is usually not what we end up working on. Right. It's trying to figure out and get everybody in agreement. What what is the outcome? What are you going to see as the shift in behavior? So whether I'm working with an individual coaching client or with a consulting client, it's always around. Let's the shift let's let's paint a picture of that. And then we back up. We start to figure out how can you grow your agility, your strength, really leverage your strengths and move towards that in a very intentional, deliberate way. Mm hmm.

George El Masri [00:10:30] Interesting. OK, so that's one of the points that you you discuss which is overcoming overwhelm. The other part you said self-confidence. So can you tell us a bit about that?

Lisa Mitchell [00:10:42] They're connected, aren't they? You know, the whole the self-confidence. I speak from experience because I I'm a I'm a driver, I'm an impact kind of person and I'm always going always wanting to to take on more. Learn more. And it's great because I get a lot done, for instance, and I see that a lot of my clients, you know, get get stuff done great at the same time. Sometimes because you're interested and curious and everything, it's the shiny object syndrome a little bit. You can get into this. It's like a high frequency mode where you're almost vibrating. Right. And that's where things become. This I call it the swirl. The mind swirled there, swirling in your mind and you become less able to sort out fact from fiction in your head. Right. Because we all have this this inner critic living in our minds, sitting on our shoulder. That's louder at some points than others, usually louder in times of stress and anxiety. And, you know, it'll say stuff like, you should have known better. Why didn't you do this? You're an idiot. What were you thinking? Oh, my God, these people think you're stupid. You know, it's the it's the voice that holds us back. And the problem is most people are are unaware that they have this right. Like most people, I'm sure you understand this and know this concept as an entrepreneur, most people don't actually have that knowledge. I my mission is to help more people understand that there's this voice in there that's that's meant to protect you. It's coming from when we were all cave people. Right. And it was life or death kind of thoughts we were dealing with. So it's there to protect us. At the same time. It's overdone in twenty twenty one, it's too much. So learning how to sort of notice and say, OK, thank you very much for your warning here. I'm going to set you aside on the shelf and I'm going to sort through, you know, is just because I sent a text to George and he didn't respond in two hours. I'm telling myself he's mad at me. He doesn't like me anymore. I've offended him. What's really likely going on? He's probably busy. He's doing a podcast with someone. Right. So so, you know, it's coaching, journaling. Any time you can have a conversation with with someone and take that mindset out, dump it out and sort through it, that's how you move through overwhelm.

George El Masri [00:13:06] Sure. Sure. Yeah, yeah. You touched on this high frequency mode, which is what you were discussing about your mind kind of protecting you, this ancient brain of ours. But you think that this high frequency mode can also be used to your advantage in some ways. And I can give you an example. I remember reading Steve Jobs biography and I forget exactly what they were saying, but it was somewhere along the lines of his, like, imaginary frequency field that he would create, where he would come up with these insane objectives and make everyone believe that it's possible. Yes. So do you think that this is something that we can use to our advantage?

Lisa Mitchell [00:13:53] So yes and no, I think as with anything, you have to be able to, again, overwhelm where people's. Performance is not optimized, it's because they haven't been able to distinguish the line between being motivated, being driven and being in fear when you cross the line into fear. So if you picture concentric circles, right, so you have the first circle is your comfort zone, then there's a circle just outside of it. That's your comfort zone. And then the circle outside of that is the danger zone. So there's tons of of research, it's it's proven that growth is is in the the learning zone, right when you step outside of that initial comfort zone.

George El Masri [00:14:43] OK, sir, I'm sorry to cut you off. So you're saying the first the first circle is comfort zone, then the second circle is learning zone.

Lisa Mitchell [00:14:51] So, yeah, I mean something else. So comfort and learning and then danger. Right. OK, kind of like three circles.

George El Masri [00:14:59] Got it. Got it though.

Lisa Mitchell [00:15:00] So Comfort Zone is great. It's OK to live there at certain points. Right. Like I did over the holidays. I was just cozy in my, in my comfort zone, just chilling and really needed some downtime with my family. And when we step outside into the learning zone, that's where magic happens, where we grow, where we connect differently, our life becomes bigger. We step into our purpose. Right. However, if we push too hard and Steve Jobs was No. One to push his people too hard sometimes and be actually quite. A pretty pretty scary actually put when you push into the danger zone, that's where you can fall flat on your face and get stuck, right. Emotions start taking over. You're unable to really navigate those and getting back in control of them and you can really shut you down and slow you down. So it's it's that fine line and it's different for everybody in every situation. Right.

George El Masri [00:15:59] So it sounds like in order to overcome issues with self-control. Well, actually, we didn't really touch on it. What would you suggest doing to overcome issues with self-confidence?

Lisa Mitchell [00:16:12] So. So with self-confidence, it's it's it's kind of fascinating because I think it's. Everybody, myself included. So if I'm working with somebody, say, over six months, right, coaching engagement they might present is really, really they've got it all together and their company is saying you're high potential. We want to groom you for the next level. So we're getting you an executive coach. That's a common example. And so these people are already successful and already present as confident. Right. What people don't know is behind the scenes, they're often dealing with all sorts of other things. Right. Because our life is an ecosystem. Right. It's it's intertwined with personal issues and and traumas and kids and all this kind of stuff. So so they are probably only scratching the surface in terms of what they're able to do in terms of results. Right. They're just scratching the surface. They've been maybe lucky, fortunate in the right place at the right time. When we start to really explore what they want is usually much bigger than what they're currently producing or doing or thinking they they've wanted all along because they've been letting life happen to them. So confidence comes when you practice incrementally over time, so it's this action, reflection, learning cycle. So when you take action, Irwin Zardoz, a friend of mine, and he talks a lot about that. Right. Like it's not enough to just talk about these things is about taking action. And when we do that. It's not good enough to race to the next election. We need to be reflective and take that step back and create habits that allow us to figure out how did that go? Did it fail? Did it suck? OK, let's not beat ourselves up about that. What's the learning from it? And then we take that learning. We pull the thread into our next action. So it's a continuous loop. And that's how we build confidence over time because we start to get success.

George El Masri [00:18:16] What would you suggest would be a good ratio of action to reflection?

Lisa Mitchell [00:18:22] Oh, wow. That's a great question. One to one more seriously, reflection and intentionality are the two key ingredients, I think, for people to to have to live with more joy and with more confidence and to be more successful is is to really, really learn and create rigor and cadence, discipline around. Daily reflection, learning than action

George El Masri [00:18:55] rent, right? So if we want to kind of put it in different terms, the action is kind of like working in your business and then reflection is worth reflection and learning are working on your business.

Lisa Mitchell [00:19:09] So, yeah, well, yes, because, you know, I think often when we talk about working on our business, we're often talking about working on the ten thousand dollar tax versus the ten dollar tasks like you're working in it, you're working with clients or you're doing sort of administrative stuff, your taxes, your invoices and then working on it is that strategy is being outcome focused is really considering. So it's reflective. Yes. But it's also about being intentional and planning out the actions that support the learning.

George El Masri [00:19:39] Sure, sure. I think yeah. And just to maybe relate this to real estate investing, because I think a lot of people are investors, the people that are listening, that would be the equivalent of maybe buying a property, making some mistakes like we all do. And then instead of just moving on to the next one, maybe taking some time to think about the mistakes and what adjustments could be made in the future and maybe creating a system around that to to help eliminate any similar mistakes moving forward.

Lisa Mitchell [00:20:07] Yeah, that's a beautiful example. Beautiful example, because, you know, I can think about when I started on my real estate journey and I started with education and and I read the book by Dawn Campbell, Real Estate Investing in Canada. And he talks about, you know, creating this vision of your own personal beliefs. You may know the story, but you know, what is what are you working towards? What is this all for? And really creating a vivid picture painting you can almost step into. And that really resonated with me at the time because I was in my corporate job. I was a vice president at a large Canadian organization, really big one. And and I remember thinking, I'm in meetings, meetings, meetings. Maita can't even figure out which of the three meetings at two o'clock I should attend it. Was that nuts? Right. And I remember thinking there's got to be more. So this idea of purpose of of what are we doing this for is really important, right?

George El Masri [00:21:03] Absolutely. Yeah. And I guess the third point that you touched on earlier was moving through fear. So let's talk about that. How do we how do we do that?

Lisa Mitchell [00:21:16] Well. It's I was listening to this podcast a couple of weeks ago, and now I can't think of their name, they were on Bernie Brown's Unlocking US podcast and the sisters, and they wrote a book around burnout. And it's really fascinating because they describe emotions as a tunnel. Right. And that, you know, when we're in emotion, we can get stuck sometimes and we can't see the light. So it's around. How do we how do we move through the tunnel and start to to see that and trust that? And so I thought that was kind of an interesting metaphor. Right, because when we think about moving through the fear, you know, we all we all grapple with when other people think of us, what if I put myself out there? What's going to happen? What if I fail? And it often causes us to play small. I grapple with it all of my clients. Do I know this entrepreneurs or corporate like. So so it becomes sometimes. So it's interesting because we often think our brain is the way through everything, right, we lead from the head in our in our culture very much. And sometimes we have to just just take the step, just trust our gut. Right. And just take small steps and trust that if we experiment, we don't have to be married to every single decision we make or every single business idea we implement. We can do it. And if it doesn't go so well, it doesn't go. I launched an online course on March 12th right before the shutdown. Right. So, you know, there there was an impact there and that's OK. So now I'm looking at I'm not throwing away that asset. I worked hard on it. How can I reposition it? Yeah. So it's sometimes you've just got to take the action, take the step and and then the rest will follow.

George El Masri [00:23:11] Yeah. And how do you work through the cloudiness of your thoughts to get to your true gut feeling?

Lisa Mitchell [00:23:19] So me personally. Sure, in general,

George El Masri [00:23:23] you can answer both,

Lisa Mitchell [00:23:25] yeah, so I'm a big believer in and I wasn't always I came up with this, I don't know, I had this conviction or belief that I had to do it all, like I had to effort through and make it all happen, like this incredible sense of responsibility, but also almost like burdensome, like I'm in it alone. Right. I'm going to make it happen. And I've shifted completely. It's been a transformation over the last several years that I believe in getting help, in getting support. So I people seem to resist the journal. So journal resistors, if you're listening to me write stuff down, just, you know, start with what's bugging me. Why am I feeling anxious or overwhelmed? Write it all down. What are all these things that are on my mind and then go through and use a different color pen, whatever it is, and sort through, you know, what's what's fact? What's fiction? What what are the stories? I'm telling myself what's actually likely? And then what do I want to do about this? What's next? Right. So it's this this action of deliberately reframing, like acknowledging the stuff that's freaking us out and figuring out what's next. So it's it's the writing piece. And I have a business coach and I have a personal coach. Hmm.

George El Masri [00:24:38] Interesting. OK, so for you. So basically your answer to my question, which was how do you get past the cloudiness of your thoughts to get to your gut, to your instinct and you're saying you like to journal and also you like to consult with your your coach?

Lisa Mitchell [00:24:54] Yeah. So ultimately, the way I usually describe it, George, is you've got to let oxygen get at the swirl. You have to let the air get at it, which means you've got to take it out. It sounds ridiculous and maybe it almost sounds too simple to be actually. True, but it's true, you take out the soil, you sort it out, you put it either on paper or you talk it out with somebody who's earned your trust.

George El Masri [00:25:21] Yeah, definitely. Well, the thing is, I think now with the way our society is in general, we're not really making a lot of time to let those thoughts out. We're so distracted with everything and it's very hard to well, it's not very hard. It's just we don't make an effort to set time aside to really think and identify what we need to do.

Lisa Mitchell [00:25:47] Well, this is this is it, and I think we can get into kind of a rote like rinse, repeat. Sounds great on the surface of it. But if you're if you're trying to create and innovate and and be a thought leader. Right. And have your own voice, that's that's unique and true, then I think we're doing ourselves a disservice if we're not actually tuning into our to our thoughts and actually in our gut. Right. Because we are more, again, than just the brain. We are we are got heart and head.

George El Masri [00:26:18] Yeah. And the interesting thing about that is even us like, well, we're different generations. But as the generations move forward, it seems like there is even less time to focus. There is more distractions with with the phones and social media and everything else. So it's just it's interesting to see that change. And I just hope that people continue or identify that that's a problem and that we need to really set time for ourselves.

Lisa Mitchell [00:26:45] Yeah, that's a really astute observation. I mean, I have a 14 year old boy who's almost six foot tall, even shorter than the became Kobe, by the way, just playing. And he's doing online school. And, you know, he gets his work done. I'm a former teacher, so that's helpful because I have been doing a little home schooling to help them. But he does get it done. But in between, he's he's gaining constantly and constantly. It is it's very hard for us to pull him out of that world. And you do. Right. Let's go for a walk. Let's watch watch a movie together. Each night we connect, all meals are taken together. But it is tricky because he's he loved to read when he was younger and now he's not reading as much like a bit before he goes to bed. But that's it, because I think it's the pace of the gaming and the online kind of community. You're very right. It's it's it's a bit scary. I think we have to be pretty, pretty careful as parents to help bring our kids back into the present.

George El Masri [00:27:45] Absolutely. Yeah. OK, perfect. So we just we covered three topics overcoming overwhelming self-confidence and moving through fear. And I think that's there is quite a bit for the listeners to digest here. Before we move on to the next section, is there anything you'd like to add?

Lisa Mitchell [00:28:07] No, I know, I think I think that's good for now, where are we going in the next section?

George El Masri [00:28:12] We're going to the them five.

Lisa Mitchell [00:28:15] OK, what did you what did you want to touch on on the real estate piece at all?

George El Masri [00:28:20] Yeah, I mean, we could touch on that. Yeah. I think you in some of the notes that I read, you bought some real estate to kind of move away from or to sort of replace some of your income, is that right?

Lisa Mitchell [00:28:34] Yeah. So so when I was in my last executive job and I and I know the audience is mostly real estate investors, so I do want to sort of connect to them directly, talking about other more universal stuff. But it was part of my plan B, so I had a great run in corporate and increasingly senior roles, and I loved it until I didn't. And the last couple of years that I was in corporate was really unhappy. And I was sort of like, oh, I think I might need to go on my own. That was. But the fear was holding, how can I give up all this, the salary and the stress in the meetings. So there was this fear holding me back. And and, you know, I reached out to a lot of former mentors and sort of talked it through and so on. But at any rate, one of the things that I'm really glad I did was I realized I needed a plan B, I needed an exit strategy. So I had started with the Don Campbell book, then I joined Rain and started dragging my husband and my best friend to different real estate seminars with all sorts of different gurus. And and then about nine months after that, I decided to pull the trigger. So we bought four houses in four months, starting at the end of twenty sixteen, all in St. Catherine's. And then we did legal Sweeting to they were single family bungalows and we did legal basement suites for each of them. And then and then we did the renovations, trials and tribulations, lots of lessons learned, went through a couple of property managers. Tough job, but it was we now manage them ourselves, all units. Do you want to outsource that eventually? Because it's it's a pain, but at least we know that we're getting a quality and we're taking care of our clients.

George El Masri [00:30:15] So, yeah, well, I like what you just shared because it shows that you're not just talking. You're actually doing things. It takes a lot of courage to buy four homes in four months. Yeah, that's very few people would take that kind of plunge. So good for you.

Lisa Mitchell [00:30:32] Yeah, well, it was scary, but, you know, and I was able to qualify fully on my income back then. Right. And then I left my job like two, two months after I bought last house with my husband. And and then it was like, OK, I think we're on hold for as he's a he's a self-employed entrepreneur as well. So awesome.

George El Masri [00:30:53] Good for you. I'm happy to hear that. Those are great stories.

Lisa Mitchell [00:30:56] Yeah. Well, thank you.

George El Masri [00:30:58] OK, so I love that you shared your real estate piece, but I really think that what we talked about earlier is really important. It's great to talk about real estate strategies and all that, but there's so much more than than just discussing strategies, things like this. These are concepts that are applicable in all areas of our lives. And it's important to discuss them as well, in my opinion.

Lisa Mitchell [00:31:19] At least, I agree. Oh, yeah, because they they connect to everything in our lives. We have own state working for the man working for yourself.

George El Masri [00:31:27] Yeah, exactly. OK, so let's hop into the random five. I'm going to ask you five random questions and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind.

Lisa Mitchell [00:31:36] Oh, God. All right.

George El Masri [00:31:37] Number one, when will flying cars be invented?

Lisa Mitchell [00:31:43] Well, Elon Musk is probably already on the cusp here.

George El Masri [00:31:47] I don't know, I don't think he's he's maybe maybe he does dabble with cars.

Lisa Mitchell [00:31:51] So it's possible cars and space shuttles and all sorts of things. Well, yeah, he is the ultimate dabbler. I don't know. I think that's interesting. I think, you know, with the fact that we're going to have what is it like driverless controlled cars that are already on the streets in some cases? I don't think maybe it's not that far off. Maybe by the time my son is my age.

George El Masri [00:32:14] Yeah, that's interesting. It's always it's a concept that I always grew up with. Like just wondering when that will happen. So it'll it'll be cool to see that it does.

Lisa Mitchell [00:32:23] Yeah.

George El Masri [00:32:23] Yeah, yeah. What film have you seen the most times.

Lisa Mitchell [00:32:30] Oh, man. But. Oh, probably Bourne Identity, because Rob likes to watch it online or hunt for Red October, but, you know. Yeah, I don't know a lot of the Star Wars ones. I like them. Yeah, cool. We're really into Mandalorian right now. That's the big thing.

George El Masri [00:32:51] Oh, yeah. OK, so there you go. Number three, do you own any original pieces of art?

Lisa Mitchell [00:33:00] I do. I do. My great uncle was the inventor of the electric kettle, Fred Moffat, actually, and he made his start in the 20s in Toronto. He was he was an illustrator for Etan's catalog because back then it was drawings versus photos. And he was a professional artist and one of the first industrial designers in Canada. So I have a couple of pieces of his art. I was yeah,

George El Masri [00:33:24] that's a really cool piece of history that you get to hold on to.

Lisa Mitchell [00:33:28] Yeah, it is. It is

George El Masri [00:33:29] cool. How has your taste in food changed over time?

Lisa Mitchell [00:33:34] Oh, huge. Huge. OK, so I was the peanut butter and jam girl growing up. Like, seriously I could have, I could have eaten that. Thank God we didn't know about peanut allergies because that's all I ever wanted to take to school. I wanted it for lunch and dinner and for mom, I was picky. I didn't like anything that had red sauce. Right. Or creamy sauce. No sauce, please. So super picky. Really weird. Just plain, plain. And in in my first marriage, it was my second husband, my, my, my. He's still a friend, but my former husband, he used to not love how I would attempt to cook and so on. So one day I said, that's fine. I don't cook, forget about it. You do all the cooking. From now on, we would order pizza or he'd sort of muddle through something. And then when I met Rob, we went we did this many like he was a community course learning how to cook and it was Asian cooking. You did four dishes per night over four weeks and it demystified cooking for me and eating because in Asian cooking, whether it's Malaysian, Thai, whatever, everything's blended. And so I wouldn't eat that stuff before. But now, because I was preparing it and cooking it and seeing how it went together and I had supportive friends with me, I completely discovered this new world. And now Thai, for instance, is my favorite cuisine.

George El Masri [00:34:59] Awesome. Yeah, I love that. I love that you you completely changed from your peanut butter and jelly sandwiches to Asian cooking and all sorts of stuff.

Lisa Mitchell [00:35:08] Yeah. And I cook. I mean, I'm an adequate cook. I'm pretty good.

George El Masri [00:35:12] Awesome. OK, and number five, what success principle do you live by.

Lisa Mitchell [00:35:20] I live by intentionality, yeah, yeah, being intentional, which is that whole action, reflection, learning cycle.

George El Masri [00:35:30] Perfect. I love that nice and sweet and to the point, which is exactly how I like to answer things, too. OK, so how do people reach you and what services do you provide

Lisa Mitchell [00:35:42] so people can find me at least Simental dot seei and I encourage people if they're interested in coaching. So this is not business coaching, this is leadership life coaching and it's, it's really about customizing the agenda to you. They can book a clarity Catalyst's call with me on my contact page. And likewise, if you happen to be a talent leader or a business leader that has a a high stakes talent initiative that you're looking to to implement with your team, then please do reach out and we can talk about, you know, how I might help you. So executive coaching, consulting strategy, those are my key areas of focus.

George El Masri [00:36:25] Great. Well, Lisa, thank you so much for doing this. I love what we talked about today, and I look forward to chatting with you again soon. I wish you all the best.

Lisa Mitchell [00:36:35] You, George. It was a real pleasure. I'm happy to spend time with you today. Thank you so much.

George El Masri [00:36:39] Thank you. Have a great day.

Lisa Mitchell [00:36:40] And I.

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